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Where are the Courageous Americans I Know? Why Are Some Afraid to Make Health Care Work?

Americans have faced greater challenges than Health Care Reform. Let us not shirk this noble cause. Lets put it in the win column for Americans!

Where are our Americans who never cower from reminding everyone that America is great. The Americans who proudly show the flag, care deeply about our country, fought for our country whether in war on on the streets, in the courtrooms or homeless shelters. What are they afraid of? Are they afraid we will fail?

The debate is over, now it is time to get to work. Whether you think its good policy or not. No one can argue that quality free Health Care should be the right of every American and a goal this country can and should strive to achieve. Only Americans can get it right. It is time to join the fight and stop hiding behind the fear mongering incited by special interests. We are better than that!

If we were scared of challenges would America be the country we are proud of?

Americans have changed the world, we have led the world to a better place. The country that won World War One and Two, sent brave Americans into outer space. Freed nations of tyranny, Rebuilt countries after wars and natural disasters.

Proved to the world that people of all nations, of all colors and religions can live as one and pool their unique talent and resources to make the country and the world a better place.

Why are we afraid to take up the challenge of providing free health care for every American. This is or should be an American civil right. As Americans we are the one country in the World able to get it right.

Sure it may be hard but we will stick to it and get it right!

Sure there may be problems to overcome but we will overcome them!

Since when did a challenge scare Americans to act? Man up! 

We have the greatest group of humans on the face of the globe assembled under one country. We can do this !

Let us take up the challenge and commit to making it work, is there a better goal to pursue, 

Naysayers stop being scared by the interests of the few, Man Up , put on your boots and get it done, Americans do not hide behind reasons to fail. We Succeed! 

Prove to the World, that this Great Experiment we call America, deserves to be the leader of the Free world.

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Craig July 07, 2012 at 04:08 AM
Tony - Totally inappropriate and out of line. Apparently you have lost the argument when you compare someone who doesn't agree with you on health care to a terrorist. Keep it classy Tony.
Craig July 07, 2012 at 04:10 AM
Wrong again Tony. The Dems lost their control of congress because of their vote on this bill. A majority do not support this law. Half at best do,
Joanne Toresko July 07, 2012 at 04:12 AM
Hi Tony, Our business has made the necessary changes over the years and done well. My husband and I are not solely locked into the medical field by any means. Far from being frightened we've spent years taking risk in search of reward. I share JH's opinions. I hope for the best but plan for the worst. I am a strong believer in the marketplace. My concern with this 2,700 page law, and the thousands more pages of regulations being written as we write, is that it will simply dictate to, and overwhelm the free market place. Hope I'm wrong. Thank you for your time and good luck to you.
Craig July 07, 2012 at 04:15 AM
Really John - that is why Europeans come here for Medical treatment because the socialist systems there are horrible. Not sure how you sound now.
Craig July 07, 2012 at 04:16 AM
LOL John - France just elected a socialist President!!! So yes, they are turning socialist.
Craig July 07, 2012 at 04:20 AM
John - it is a fact that republicans only care about people with money? That is a fact, not your opinion right? Maybe you should look up the word 'fact' to see what it means as you just labeled half the country this and called it fact.
Craig July 07, 2012 at 04:25 AM
Tony, since you believe 'No one can argue that quality free Health Care should be rthe right of every American' then you must bnelieve the rtight to bear arms, which was given to us over 200 years ago, should also be free. I would like a free 45 Cal 1911 please. Since it is my right, it shoud be free.
Tony Vitale July 07, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Craig are you saying that the 2010 midterm elections were about one issue ?
Tony Vitale July 07, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Craig I believe your mixing up two ideas , I did not claim that Healthcare is a right guaranteed by our Consitution , rather a human right earn by Americans as a benefit for making America the greatest country on the face of the earth. That the country as a whole , all it's citizens should have earned the right of at least healthcare. Is that asking too much?
Tony Vitale July 07, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Good Luck to you Joanne, keep up the good fight. !
Tony Vitale July 07, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Thank You , JH and Good Luck!
Craig July 07, 2012 at 02:58 PM
Everyone can get heathcare. No one is being told they can't get heathcare. I agree that cost makes INSURANCE expensive, but no one is denied healthcare. Every other protected right we have guarantees that the government can't take them away from us. This new 'right' that has being proposed would mean that you are guaranteed to something based on others collectively paying for it. I know you diodn't say it is in the Constitution, but my point is that other rights that are in the Constitution do not require other to pay for them and I believe this is a dangerous philosophy and against the principles of this country. Next thing you know food and shelter will then be a right and we have to pay for meals and housing. Next would be having a job is a right and should be provided by the state. See where this is leading? We have always been a country based on personal responsibility and this ideal is slowly eroding with this mindset.
Craig July 07, 2012 at 02:58 PM
What I think many on the left is not seing is that those on the right are very much in support of driving down the cost of health care with free market principles. There were many proposals on the table the conservatives put forth during the debate which the Dems threw off the table. There was an opportunity to make this bipartisan which was completely missed. And since this is the largest bill ever passed that affects every American, the fact that only half, at best, supported this bill is not right. In fact, the incredble losses in Congress in the next election as a direct consequence of this bill shows how weak of support this sweeping bill has. Given this, your article here claiming the game is over and to all shake hands is insulting to about half of this nation that feel they had no voice in this bill that not even those who voted for it fully understand.
Tony Vitale July 07, 2012 at 03:26 PM
Craig It's not insulting to remind people of good sportsmanship, the game is over the bill was passed, man up and support it. They correct thing for the people who lost this vote to do is chip in and work it out. George Wallace did not like segragation when the law was past in the sixties he refused to accept it clauming the world was going to end. He even admitted he was wrong . The world will not end because of this law , if it turns out that it does not work the opponents can point the finger and say" We told you so". and elect people to dismantle it. It's a waste of time to beat a dead horse when there are new more pressing issues to discuss. The current republican candidate has no credibility on this issue , I predict he will keep his mouth shut and move on.
Tony Vitale July 07, 2012 at 05:07 PM
Craig You pay for Police , firemen, armed forces, roads , railways,airports, weather stations, ecavuation plans, boarder paytrolls, drug inforcement agency, CIA, FBI television channels , art museums all things that make this country a nice place to live , why not affordable healthcare , millions and millions of people are denied healthcare even if the can afford it , people with preconditions.
Craig July 07, 2012 at 05:30 PM
You are mixing and lumping things into one bucket. There is a difference between federal and local/state services. State and local services and infrastructure paid by property or usage taxes is very different than a federal mandate. But lets use your analogy and apply the same rationale and thinking that is applied to Obamacare to police. Our bill is called 'Obamacop' and the federal government would require all citizens to hire private security details for their families. The rationalle is that now some people use the police and do not pay taxes, and everyone lives under the protection of police, so this would make it fair. Oh, and if you can't afford to hire your personal security detail, the American taxpayer will pay it for you. Do you think this is Constitutional? Do you think this is fair? Don't we all have the human right to be safe? Just to correct your other point, NO ONE is denied healthcare if they can't afford it. People may be denied insurance because of preconditions. If you have a precondition and are willing to pay for your treatment, no one denies you because you don't have insurance.
Tony Vitale July 07, 2012 at 06:09 PM
We are talking about a different model that's all, this model provides the best flexibility in being able to create a baseline of standard healthcare. It also brings in the private sector to be competitive like putting out a job for bid, we provide the minimum standard of care and guarantee this many potential patients. This acts to keep costs competative.Anyway Craig we are off topic I do not wish to rehash issues that have been settled already. My post is a challege to those Americans that were upset about the passage of a bill they disagree with to do the right thing , accept the outcome and move on to the next problem. So far the parts of the plan that have been implemented are working fine, if after implementing the rest something goes wrong we can adjust it to make it more fair. Remember how gracious Al Gore was when the criminals working for Bush stole the election from the people , remember how he stood up and said Listen we have a new President it is important we all stand behind him and work to make this country great. I see people who complain about this decision going the wrong way as sore losers without the courage to move on.
Chuck July 07, 2012 at 06:19 PM
Actually parts of the plan are already in huge trouble. The court decided states could not be forced to pay for the huge explosion explosion in Medicaid that is mandated in the Affordable Care Act. That is going to leave a massive hole in financing the program.
Tony Vitale July 07, 2012 at 06:26 PM
Hi Chuck Welcome to the discussion. regarding your comment: Well, we shall see how that works out, from what I understand it should be easy to change. The successful parts I am referring to are student coverage and precondition coverage.
Craig July 07, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Yes Tony, it is this basic premise that we should all just accept the law that offends me and the half the country that doesn't want this bill. I have already stated above why this is and why there is no reason for Americans not to stand up for something they feel isn't right. To tell Americans that if there is a law that you don't like to just accept it, and 'man up' as you put it so rashly, is fundamentally against everything that makes us Americans. Citing Al Gore is ridiculous. What a warped sense of history. He is the one that brought the Florida case to court. He was the one demanding recounts only in specific districts. Even the left leaning papers that recounted the votes found that Bush won. I am not sure how anyone still brings this up as a stolen election - or brings this upo as if it is common knowledge that there was a stolen election - especially after just mentioning we were off topic. Al Gore is the most ingracious SOB there is and many people wondered if he had psychological issues with the rants he came upo with during the Bush presidency.
Tony Vitale July 07, 2012 at 08:48 PM
But he did have the decency to accept defeat and move on. Which was my point.
Argile July 07, 2012 at 09:59 PM
John Gruber said "and please, most people just don't want to pay a little more to make sure everyone has a basic human necessity. You see the governments in europe having problems with universal health care and "large government"? didn't think so." ^^ Is this post a joke? The EU got bailouts from the federal reserve! Better catch up on current events so you don't sound like a fool next time you post.
Craig July 08, 2012 at 12:17 AM
he didn't really have a choice.
Fred July 08, 2012 at 02:02 AM
Tony, your Al Gore/Stolen election comment pretty much kills any creditability you had. As for the man up/the law is passed comment, I agree with Craig, if I don't agree with a law, its my right to vote for candidates who oppose it. Our constitution is a living document and always subject to adjustments. Prohibition is a great example. This election will be a referendum on the healthcare law. If Rommey/Repubicans win, you cab bet obamacare will be nothing more than footnote in some textbook.
Tony Vitale July 08, 2012 at 02:40 AM
I can also predict that if Romney mentions Healthcare in his campaign he will lose the issue and further damage his already credibility.
Greg Martinez July 08, 2012 at 03:35 AM
Fred, The left does not believe in freedom of speech for all, only freedom of speech for the left. Once we understand that we know we are a conservative and must not be silent. The old, but sometimes still effective, tactic of the left is to tell the right to shut up. There is still a chance for the American people to stop the decline into socialistic decay in the November election. Not because Romney is a perfect Conservative. I do not think he is. However, the political reality for Romney is he must respect and listen to conservatives. Conservative Americans will have a seat at the table with Romney, whereas Obama despises everything conservative.
Christine R July 08, 2012 at 02:43 PM
Thanks Fred. Thanks for that! It should be a discussion not a insult throwing argument.
John Gruber July 10, 2012 at 11:50 PM
did you ever think that Conservatives don't have the answer to everything? But I guess that would require the ability to think for oneself and realize there are other right ways other than your own. And don't go ahead and label it "liberal" just so you have an excuse for not doing it Get your head out of your political party's a$$, I bet if half of you "conservatives" were told oxygen was now considered a "liberal" thing to breathe you'd just as quickly stop breathing it
John Gruber July 10, 2012 at 11:52 PM
if you think it was Europe's HEALTH CARE that got them into trouble the only fool here is you
John Gruber July 10, 2012 at 11:54 PM
just to prove you wrong, the US gave out bailouts to it's own companies so does tht mean healthcare was the cause of that as well?

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