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University, Town Come Together to Address Illegal Housing

Stony Brook and Brookhaven officials decide on three-point plan with the hope of curbing illegal housing issues in the Three Village area.

Stony Brook University officials and Brookhaven Town attorneys have come to an agreement that has the potential to ease friction arising from illegal housing issues within the community, Three Village Patch has learned.

University spokeswoman Lauren Sheprow told Patch that following a meeting with a town attorney and a town investigator, the university has agreed to ask landlords to produce valid permits when they want to list available housing with the university. In addition, she said, the university will also cross-reference off-campus housing lists with town database of known illegal dwellings.

She also said the town has agreed to "host and/or participate in a workshop with our students living in off-campus housing so these students better understand the importance of, and how to comply with town codes."

Those provisions were mutually agreed upon at a Feb. 27 meeting.

"The university does not have the authority to enforce town or village code," Sheprow said in an email to Patch. "However the university will do everything possible to help keep our students safe and help them with a better understanding of the code by sharing this information with them on this website and with direct communication processes – email, snail mail, and print materials in orientation kits."

The agreement between the town and the university comes two months after Town Supervisor Ed Romaine pledged more enforcement against illegal housing, an issue that has brought the community to its feet.

In October, the university established a web page titled "Living Responsibly Off Campus," which can be found front-and-center on its Off Campus Housing (OCH) website. It specifically outlines ways students living off campus should "be a good neighbor" and offers other information pertinent to living student life off campus. Sheprow said the information has also been mass-distributed to both new and returning students since its posting on the website.

"It is the university's goal to promote a safe experience for all students attending Stony Brook and this helps educate those who decide to live off campus," Sheprow said.

Deputy Town Attorney David Moran said the meeting with university officials proved a helpful one in which the university expressed interest in working with the town to ease the problem.

"It was an initial meeting to kind of get together on this issue," he said. "I think everyone’s noticing that it’s becoming a Three Village problem."

The agreement between the town attorney's office and the university is expected to help the students know what to look out for if they decide to live off campus, how to check that their tenancy is legal, and how to understand the town code.

"It’s refreshing to get the help of the university in moving forward," Moran said. "Maybe we can actually make a difference and get this problem solved for the residents."

In an interview Tuesday, Town Councilman Steve Fiore-Rosenfeld, who was not present at the Feb. 27 meeting, said he is "grateful for this dialogue." He said he would have suggested the university also ask each landlord who wishes to list a property on the OCH website to sign an affidavit saying they will comply with the town code.

"Just because they have a certificate of occupancy doesn’t mean they are going to play by the rules," he said.

Fiore-Rosenfeld said he believes the university should widen its use of the student code of conduct to make sure students' behavior is appropriate when they reside in off-campus housing. He also said he will work to "uphold the rights of students to live off campus."

"They have every right to do so," he said, "but they have to act as adults and they have to obey the law. The university has an obligation to see that through to fruition, otherwise they are negatively impacting the host community of Stony Brook University – the Three Village community."

Sheprow said the university already uses the student code of conduct to do so. She said the university has investigated 46 off-campus incidents within the past 14 months.

"When a code of conduct issue is brought to the attention of the Office of Student Affairs, whether it is about a student living on campus or off, the Office of Community Standards is immediately engaged and conducts the appropriate review of the student conduct," Sheprow said.

Not only are the administration and town officials making an effort to help solve the problem, but the students themselves are also looking for solutions. The Undergraduate Student Government addressed the issue of off-campus housing during a town hall style meeting on Feb. 14.

Anna Lubitz, president of the Undergraduate Student Government, said her organization wants to "work with administration and the local town to better improve the situation for students living off campus."

"From the census of many students, especially international students, the language in the housing codes off campus is not clear," Lubitz said in an email to Patch. "I think better communication of the codes needs to be conveyed to students by the town as well. Overall, off-campus housing is extremely important to students and the communication between the town and the students via the housing codes can be improved to better serve the students."

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AJ March 13, 2013 at 11:51 pm
1. The students should not have to make sure the housing is legal the town should. 2.If it is student housing how about making sure the residents are students.
3. If the housing is for 8 students how can there be 18 cars? Overcrowding is a safety issue. Shut down the illegal housing and stop the political tap dance. How about having more dorms built instead of hotels?
lolo March 14, 2013 at 08:46 pm
Exactly AJ. How about more dorms instead of a hotel? This is getting out of hand. Our community is going down hill!! The price of our homes are being impacted by illegal college housing. These homes are not be kept up, there are cars all over lawns, garbage on lawns, etc. The politicians need to step up to the plate. If it's illegal DO SOMETHING. Stop talking abou itt we elected you now HELP us because this community really goes down hill. It's half way there.
Christine Sampson (Editor) March 14, 2013 at 09:36 pm
AJ: The university plans to build more dormitories, and it also has plans to increase enrollment. This article here -- http://threevillage.patch.com/articles/residents-grill-sbu-officials-over-student-housing -- has more information.
C. Bery March 14, 2013 at 11:25 pm
8 students - what is the code regarding how many unrelated people can live in the same home. 8 creates a boarding room situation - we need to fix that right away!!
Art Vandelay March 15, 2013 at 01:09 pm
There will be a demonstration at one of the illegal houses at Madeley and Malvern on Sunday from 11AM-12PM. Show your support.
Michael N March 15, 2013 at 02:10 pm
Who is arranging the demonstration?
AJ March 15, 2013 at 06:30 pm
Christine, articles like these should be left up. More Students, more dorms and more Illegal housing. Which comes first more dorms or more students? How about SBU telling us which of there employees own the student housing?
lolo March 16, 2013 at 12:09 am
The demostration is being run by stonybrookconcernedhomeowers@gmail.com. We need the support please come. The corner of Madely and Malvern Sunday, March 17 from 11am-12pm.
C. Bery March 18, 2013 at 09:35 pm
Happy to see the coverage on channel 12 today - however I am AMAZED that they picked the one day in the last 4 years when there have been so few cars - I think I counted 6. 98% of the time there are in excess of 20 cars at that mess of a house on 150 Christian. Let's keep working together to save out neighborhood. THANk YOU to those who came to demonstrate -
lolo March 19, 2013 at 11:42 am
We have to keep up with the demonstration, and letter writing. We need to keep putting the pressure on the town.
justme March 19, 2013 at 01:14 pm
Patrick - know of any demonstrations regarding the upcoming school budget? If more people came out to vote (other than those with school aged children) the budget would be voted down.
C. Bery March 19, 2013 at 08:23 pm
Letter Writing - please give information on the most effective place to send our letters,
Thx
lolo March 19, 2013 at 09:38 pm
Send to:
Fiore-Rosenfeld@brookhaven.org Eromaine@brookhaven.org Town Law Department Quality of Life Task Force: dmoran@brookhaven.org pdegen@brookhaven.org Samuel.stanley@stonybrook.ed ( President of Stony Brook University) get as many people as you can to send e mails .
Ei R March 21, 2013 at 02:46 am
Spread the word to all sections of Stony Brook. We cannot tolerate these college boarding houses anymore. Attend rallies, write letters, and talk to your neighbors. P section, H section, M section, S section, B section and Heatherwood section, let's support each other. You may not have a boarding house next door or across the street today, but it could happen to you.

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Tc June 18, 2013 at 04:59 pm
Justme.. Even if everyone voted no the raises were locked. By voting no programs would have beenRead More decimated more and more teachers given pink slips. The problem here is the BOE giving the union these contracts. It's time to STOP THE MADNESS!!
JJ Smith June 18, 2013 at 07:04 pm
And the candidate for the BOE ran unopposed. We have no to blame but ourselves.
justme June 19, 2013 at 06:52 am
Yes TC change is difficult but it has to start somewhere. What motivation does the BOE have toRead More change when we keep passing the budgets? Budgets have to fail, programs have to be cut before there will be any union negotiations. Many have to lose their jobs before they will allow their pay to be cut. Sounds harsh but it's reality. Our children will survive cuts, be educated and successful - even with less programs.