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Brookhaven Sets Public Hearing on Bamboo Ban [POLL]

Similar actions were taken in the Town of Smithtown in 2011.

The Town of Brookhaven is considering enacting a local law that would ban the planting of invasive bamboo as well as regulate existing bamboo growth, according to a report in the Village Times Herald.

A public hearing is set for March 20 at 6:30 p.m. at Brookhaven Town Hall. The proposed law would set fines of $500 to $2,000 for violations. Other penalties include imprisonment up to 15 days, or both fines and imprisonment.

The Town of Smithtown in 2011 restricting bamboo growth to at least 10 feet off residents' property lines because the plant is considered invasive.

Click here to read the full report from the Village Times Herald.

Michael O'sullivan February 26, 2012 at 04:25 AM
Why is she allowed to call herself a specialist? It's a lie and any post she has should not be allowed
knock_on_wood February 26, 2012 at 04:28 AM
Exactly. If Steve Lau's posts cannot be shown because he sells bamboo, hers should not be shown because she lies.
knock_on_wood February 26, 2012 at 04:36 AM
Caryn. I am not trying to be nasty. Just trying to protect all of the Bambuseros out there.
Baerbalang February 26, 2012 at 04:45 AM
I see my comments pointing out a major glaring error was just too embarassing for her to allow to remain. She has moved to the next step in her chain of errors.
Lon Cohen February 26, 2012 at 11:05 AM
It's good to debate the issues but personal attacks and taunting comments will be deleted.
Michael O'sullivan February 26, 2012 at 01:18 PM
Good morning all you Bamboo lovers and haters.
Michael O'sullivan February 26, 2012 at 01:33 PM
Well,don't think I will spend my sunday talking about the lies.There are too many benefits from bamboo too list right now and they will only grow as the tree industry can't keep up with demand. For the people who want it in their yards for whatever reason, they should be allowed.Controlling it is too easy.
BillLongisland February 26, 2012 at 01:44 PM
And it cuts into your profits, right ?
Elisabeth, How can I contact you , other than this post ?
BillLongisland February 26, 2012 at 01:56 PM
What is your experience to make that statement ? Share with us.
Michael O'sullivan February 26, 2012 at 01:56 PM
Sorry. I don't sell it.I enjoy it's beauty
knock_on_wood February 26, 2012 at 02:06 PM
There are many forms of clumping bamboo that spread very slowly. Their rhizomes only move about an inch and then form culms. They are perfectly NON-INVASIVE! Why should they be outlawed?!!
http://www.blujay.com/item/Live-fresh-dug-Bamboo-root-10-inches-Ready-for-planting-11220000-3794990 Above is an online seller of Yellow Groove invasive bamboo - In the 5th paragraph up from the bottom he is thanking Steve Lau for telling him it is Phyllostachys-yellow groove . He says it is from the mother plant from Thailand ? NO MENTION OF BARRIER OR CONTAINMENT. Here is his other ad, again thanking Steve Lau for telling him it is yellow groove. He ships RHIZOME PIECES ONLINE - of this invasive bamboo. http://www.blujay.com/item/Live-fresh-dug-Bamboo-root-10-inches-Ready-for-planting-11220000-3794990 These may be in violation of shipping laws by state . This we do not know yet. This post will remain as long as it isn't deleted by these posters above. Patch : "you need to fix this problem, or we cannot use this section ". I hope Councilwoman Kathy Walsh can see this. I will personally email her this information today as well. Elisabeth hopefully can see this.... ABS as well.
knock_on_wood February 26, 2012 at 02:20 PM
how is this relevant?
A Warning going out by an ebay seller of Phyllostachys on Facebook to warn ABS that I am out there giving wrong information : Posted publicly by Steve Lau • Pat Guild likes this. Lau Steve http://millerplace-rockypoint.patch.com/users/caryn-rickel-invasive-bamboo-research-specialist Attention to members of the ABS. There is a self proclaimed invasive bamboo research specialist spreading misinformation on bamboo and trying to get it banned throughout the nation. If Town council members are starting to take her seriously, this could be a real problem. Above is the link to her web page. Bottom line is online sellers do not like that the word is out on : Phyllostachys invasive running bamboo. This is very easy to propagate by rhizome to sell. The clumping bamboo is not easy to propagate. The public absolutely needs to be aware or this, until the lawmakers can regulate it.
http://stevesbamboogarden.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-sell-and-ship-bamboos.html Seller teaching others how to sell Phyllostachys on ebay, same person as above, I urge the readers here to save these links for their town meeting before the PATCH gets sabotaged in the comment section , as it did yesterday. Patch is aware of what occurred yesterday. I hope this sheds some light on the magnitude of the problem with Invasive bamboo. This is a nationwide problem at this point.
Henry Powderly (Editor) February 26, 2012 at 02:32 PM
We did remove several comments because they included personal attacks, which violates our terms of use.
Michael O'sullivan February 26, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Why are you still attacking Steve? Probably because your expertise has been found to be flawed.
knock_on_wood February 26, 2012 at 02:40 PM
Clumping bamboos can also be very easily propagated. sometimes even more so than runners. They just lack the running rhizome system. I grow for my own use, not for sales. It is not all about money!
BillLongisland February 26, 2012 at 02:50 PM
Michael, how about showing some of your "expertise" and challenging Caryn ? Nothing else to offer ?
Steve's garden: How to sell and ship bamboos efficiently ... stevesbamboogarden.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-sell-and-ship-bamboos.html Oct 3, 2011 ... Ever since I started selling bamboos on eBay starting in 2010, I've sold well into the hundreds, and had to .... Posted by Steve Lau at 9:23 PM ... Freshly dug live Bamboo root ready to plant,F
Elisabeth C. February 26, 2012 at 03:12 PM
I'm not sure why some of my comments have been removed. Nothing I posted was personal or offensive. Considering the nightmare I've been through with my own bamboo situation,I feel my posts are very relevant. Running bamboo is invasive, destructive and potentially dangerous (step on a baby shoot and tell me what that's like). It is a fact. Responsibility starts with those who sell it. It trickles down to those who allow it to infringe on others rights to enjoy their property safely and peacefully. What I find amazing are the posts whose postees state that it is easily removable and can easily be controlled. If that's really the case, than contain it. Don't let it spread to someone else's yard. If containment was really so simple, would we be having this discussion?
Elisabeth , these guys learned if they hit the Flag as Inappropriate button a number of times, the post deletes. Patch :Lon Cohen is aware of it. You had very good comments, and yes they were deleted. The one where you said my information was re-checked by you and very accurate, and that you did not like getting info.from a seller. That was deleted. Also my comment that scientific facts were undisputed facts. I also wrote if everyone were rhizome pruning and containing it...where are all the rhizomes going ? That too was deleted. I think the subject has been exhausted here. Let's wait and see . I am sure Councilwoman Kathy Walsh is aware of the magnitude of the problem. I do hope she reads the post. I have sent some emails. Brookhaven seems to understand the Genus: Phyllostachys , it is listed as invasive on a town invasive listing. I can post that later. If you need info. let me know how to reach you. Do know the longer the invasion continues, the harder and more expensive it will be to eradicate. Chemicals unfortunately wll kill all desirable plants, especially if it rains and it disperses. The soil also may not be able to sustain plants for some time.
Michael O'sullivan February 26, 2012 at 03:27 PM
I had one of my yards full of J. Knotweed (6000sf). As you know it is everywhere and flowers every year. If you ever tried to remove it you would know how deep, thick and complicated the root system is. there was no information on how to remove it at the time and chemicals don't, plus they are very bad. I decided to cut it to ground level and put down grass seed. Because your mowing your new grass you also exhaust the rhizomes trying to send up shoots. the same thing works on places where you don't want grass. Just keep the shoots at ground level. Well now you say "What does this have to do with Bamboo". First of all , you may never see Bamboo flower in your lifetime. The rhizomes are so shallow they can be pruned if you choose to and pulled out of the ground without much effort, unlike J Knotweed. With the right responsibility, it can be controlled so easy. I shouldn't have to be told what and where to plant on my land.ffffffffffffffffff
http://www.kmc.nsw.gov.au/resources/documents/bamboo2.pdf I am not going to post too much here at one time. Start with this , and read it. This is enough for today.
You cant mow over mature yellow groove bamboo stumps , here is the video.The law was passed a while back: Take a look. Rhizomes are backhoe work. It is getting exhausting to post to correct the wrong statements. Watch the video, those are yellow groove stumps. A mature grove has very thick and deep rhizomes. Backhoe. This video loads after a short commercial. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/video/#!/news/weird/Bamboo-Battle-in-Pa--Town/127904308
To clarify further, when you read the **above article do know that 3 meters is 10 feet. ( 9 feet -11 inches ) . This helps when reading.
Elisabeth C. February 26, 2012 at 03:59 PM
If your neighbors property is affected, you certainly should. It's a containment issue. I don't want the responsibility of trying to tame someone else's bamboo. I'm assuming that your neighbors are satisfied with your ability to contain your bamboo. If so, Congratulations! you are among the few who do it right and maintain it correctly. It appears that this issue doesn't really even pertain to you considering that you've managed to be responsible and considerate. Wish you had been my neighbor!
knock_on_wood February 26, 2012 at 04:13 PM
Chemicals would not be needed. Just continuously harvest the culms for timber until the rhizome energy is depleted. This could potentially raise money instead of losing it!
Henry Powderly (Editor) February 26, 2012 at 04:14 PM
I have reset the flag count to restore many of the lost comments. At the same time, I have decided to close comments on this since all sides have been heard and legitimate opinions are being flagged in abuse of our system.

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