At first, recent sightings of supposedly needy families holding signs asking for money at stores along Veterans Highway and Nesconset Highway prompted Long Islanders to graciously open their wallets to help.
However, some now fear the panhandlers may be scamming people and exploiting children after the adults holding the signs were allegedly spotted with different children in their company.
An Aug. 29 post on a blog called "She Thinks That..." detailed sightings of panhandlers – along with accounts of seeing people giving them money, food, or other items – and has elicited comments from people who claim they saw the panhandlers in Commack, Smithtown, Hauppauge, the Three Village area, and other Suffolk County communities.
The blog quotes one Setauket resident who said she gave $10 to one panhandler outside , only to see the same man two days later with a different woman and different children at another Target location 20 miles away.
"I started hearing from neighbors that there seems to be a ring of people covering Long Island, from East to West, with the same sign," she said. "I’m disgusted that there has been nothing done to stop them, and that children are being dragged into their scam. If anyone is a victim, it’s not me. It’s those poor kids.”
One of the blog's commenters wrote: "I seen [sic] this family at . Feeling horrible for them I also gave $10.00. Then two weeks later seen them at target in BayShore same man different wife and kids. I too felt swindled!! Very sad for the children! It needs to be stopped!!"
Another commenter spotted the panhandlers in Hauppauge, Commack and Smithtown, eventually calling the non-emergency police line and writing: "I gave him a bag of clean baby items/blankets and a few dollars and left the parking lot in tears for that poor little baby ... 3 hrs later, I spotted the same sign (different people) in Commack ... 2 days later, same sign and different people AGAIN in Smithtown’s Uncle Giuseppe shopping center. AND they were leaning on the back of their 2011 Chrysler."
The Suffolk County Police Department has received several recent reports of people begging for money, including:
- Aug. 24 at 2:50 p.m. at Target in Commack;
- Aug. 24 at 7:40 p.m. at the same location;
- Aug. 22 at 7:07 p.m. at the same location;
- Aug. 21 at 1:31 p.m. at the same location;
- Aug. 19 at 2:30 p.m. at the same location;
- Aug. 18 at 5:38 p.m. at Walmart in East Setauket.
However, a law that prohibited panhandling was declared unconstitutional within the last two years, according to Inspector James Rhoads of the SCPD's fourth precinct.
"There used to be a law that said you weren’t allowed to loiter for the purposes of begging, but there is no such law now," he said in an interview Thursday. "It’s one of those things that just got declared unconstitutional. You ask somebody for money, it’s freedom of speech."
So while panhandlers can't be arrested, police can ask them to leave the property. Rhoads said police can offer them emergency assistance, such as temporary housing, if they are legitimately in need. He said the majority of the calls they have received express concern for the welfare of the children involved.
"We’re aware of the problem," Rhoads said. "As far as making an arrest, we can’t do that at this time. ... But we are looking into alternatives as to what we can do."
Have you seen panhandlers at places such as Target and Walmart? Have you given them money, or have you called the police? Log in to Patch and tell us in the comments.
Why not? These are valid & legitimate questions that any reasonable person would agree that would and should be asked on behalf of the welfare of the children involved. If children are witnessed being exploited by being involved with such activity, particularly when it is known that the children are with different adults at different locations from one day to the next, and all the while in the hot sun during the summer for hours at a time, it most certainly is not an issue with infringement upon one's right to panhandle when, on the contrary it is in fact a child welfare issue, and, as such the police have every right to make such inquiries.
As for social services, food stamps, public assistance? It's not so simple to apply and be granted. It's a long, confusing, humiliating process.
It shouldn't have to be that way. Those that are not legitimately in need and are intentionally scamming generous people are the ones that are causing these problems. And unfortunately THEY are the ones that are unfortunately making it worse for those who are truly in need. Those that are genuinely in need are bad off as it is to begin with - they certainly don't need for their situation to be made worse by those who choose to solicit money under false pretenses. What solutions are there for those that do want to EASILY help (at that moment) those that are genuinely in need that are seen panhandling? How does one easily go about ascertaining that they are legitimately in need and NOT a phony scammer? For those that are supposedly truly in need, why, if they were legit, would an adult be seen at one location one day with certain kids, then the next day be seen at a different location with different kids at a different location doing the same thing as was being done the day before? Hmmmm.....I'm sorry, but with all of what many have seen on numerous locations as mentioned above, it seems a little bit more than plausible that there are groups of individuals acting in concert in a fraudulent manner.
HRA is "not" a long, confusing, and humiliating process. Contray, as one applying with the proper documentation is given respect and assistance. Additionally, the process gives Vocational Educational Services to enter the work force. With many sucessful applicants graduating with finding employment and bettering themselves. HRA employs LSCW'S who's outreach is to help those applying and trains a competent staff.
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I do not give to panhandlers anymore. Period
I emailed News 12 about this on Saturday as a potential child welfare/endangerment issue as well as possibly a fraudulent solicitation issue. Although I used the email address provided on their website (provided below), I have not received an acknowledgement reply back YET for some reason despite requesting one (possibly due to reduced staffing for the holiday weekend?). I also just emailed Newsday as well a short while ago. Maybe it would have helped if I took photos and sent those in as well. ???? I would venture to say that it certainly can't hurt for the news outlets to receive calls/emails (photos too) from as many people as possible about this. NEWS 12 LI - E-mail: news12li@news12.com To report breaking news: 1-800-316-TIPS. To request news coverage: Assignment Desk-516-393-1390, select 2. NEWSDAY - Long Island news coverage: (631) 843-2700 To submit a story idea, email li@newsday.com or call 631-843-2700.
I'm still awaiting to hear a response back from News12 and/or Newsday. Tick, tock, tick, tock. The silence is deafening..................................and speaks volumes.
Every time I'd run into the mother and one of her children during school hours, I'd notify CPS. It's surprising they stayed in one apartment for so long before eventually moving on. Occasionally, "relatives" would appear, and their names were shady, too. The poor children are the innocents in these scenarios.
So, just to get this straight, according to the police, it is OK to defraud as long as one is panhandling, as there is apparently no need for the police to follow through and investigate any possibility (or likelihood) of fraudulent or child exploitation activity? Wow. I can't help but wonder - How is it that by going to town meetings (as per the suggestions of the police) is going to somehow result in defining "HOW" the police are required to investigate certain (valid) aspects associated with panhandling?